GCP S2:E6 - Logo and ConLang__0.1 v3
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Don: [00:00:00] Hello, welcome to the Grand Hill Chronicles podcast. I am your host, Don Bishop and the beautiful Lila. We are dressed the same as we were last episode because we didn't change clothes. It was 30 seconds ago for us. Hey, before we go any further, I want to tell you that we are running a contest. Yes, I'm wearing the same shirt again.

It is again. It is now three weeks later and I promise I have changed my clothes since recording the last anyway, so we are now running a contest, uh, through the end of June. [00:01:00] But stick with us and I'll tell you more about it at the end of this episode. We'll see you at the other end. So let's talk about some updates and I think one life update before we go into GR Hill and business, whatever updates.

We talked about career designation previously. I think maybe, I can't remember. 

Laila: I've been, 

Don: so usually I'm pretty vague in the podcast. Or maybe one or two episodes ago I was specific, but usually I've been vague about my day job. Uh, so I'm in the Marine Corps and I'm an officer, so we come with an automatic expiration date called an end of active service date, and.

After a couple of years, we may be offered career designation. Your ES goes away and you, you just keep going. But yeah, I was offered career designation and we deliberated and in the end I said, no, thank you. [00:02:00] It's a great opportunity. Excuse me, but I'm gonna move on. I mentioned in the last episode we settled into a house.

It takes us a lot of time to work. And it's been hard. We've had the Airbnb drama, we've had other drama, like we're done moving at least for several years. We're done moving and I want to do something different. So yeah, I said no to career designation, so that means that I kept my end of active service date and my active duty service will expire.

That's the life update now. Did you want to 

Laila: uhoh? I don't have a whole lot. Surprise. Um, yeah, sure. So these are just these Taffies future sponsor or something? 

Don: Yeah, Numa. Call us up. We'll gladly accept some compensation to talk about your product. 

Laila: Again, they're really tasty, so they're called. Good for you Taffy.

And as far as I know, they come in like [00:03:00] five flavors I think. And the reason they're good is because, or. I wouldn't say I don't eat this instead of a meal, but as far as candy goes, it's pretty good. So it comes with four grams of protein per serving, which you don't usually get in candy. Not a whole lot anyway.

I guess you get like something with nuts or something that goes up, but they all have it. And even if they don't have nuts, which at least one of them has, and it says 40% less sugar than leading brands. And so I don't know what they're comparing to, but it isn't, I mean, it's still pretty sweet. It's Taffy, so it still is, but it's not as sweet as it might be if you went a different route.

So I'm really excited to have found them. The soup Tasty. And it's a mother daughter team that started the company, so that's kind of fun for me too. It, I like it. Okay. I like that. That's the thing. 

Don: He's gonna leave that product placement right there. Well then it'll block you. [00:04:00] Okay. Progress. I mentioned the logo and I, I showed this, sorry, little black and white printout last episode and I shared the color version.

This time I'm going to share and I feel dumb cuz I'm only talking about it and I'm not showing it, but, I have another version. I've created a couple of different versions, just different colors I guess, but also as you can see today, that I replaced the, the circles at the corners of the triangle. I replaced those with other triangles to be able to have those shapes at the corners jutting out less.

From the center triangle. I think it's 

Laila: a good look. I mean, regardless of what usefulness it has, it 

Don: makes the rose bigger. It accentuates the rose in the middle, and I just think, I think it's 

Laila: a fun shape too. 

Don: Yeah, and I'm go, you'll see I'm gonna tweak it. I wanna tweak it again and make the corner triangles a little bit smaller.[00:05:00] 

You might see that today, or maybe you'll see it in the future. I don't know. I'm also working on a logo for Thorn Syndicate Publishing. And then, you know, we're, we're a little conflicted about this here cuz we have, um, so with the Thorn Studio Publishing, I, I'm using pieces. Do you wanna talk about it? You know what the pieces 

Laila: mean?

The pieces? Yeah. No, I don't remember. So I have all these parts. I think it's awesome and I love the look of it. I, I like that we're looking at this one. It's kind of a pill shaped, but, and I like that it was kind of floating out like it was a bubble. It's like, oh, really? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I liked what you had 

Don: going there.

So we have the square, can you undo and the square? Yeah. There's a square and the square has two semi-circles on either end, so it creates a pill shape. It's not that I'm trying to make a pill shape, but that's what it does. And then there are two other circles inside the square. Uh, kind of placed towards [00:06:00] opposite corners, but they're large, so they.

There's not much space in between them. And then there's yet another circle, a little bit smaller that I was scooting off to fill a third corner. But Lila think it's fun. Lila thinks it's fun. I think it jutting out of one side. I don't know, maybe I'll just share this in the notes. When you can see on thorn.link/greenhill, you can see a few different versions.

So the Thorn Syndicate Publishing, uh, there's also like. I have another version I'll, I'll include there where the smaller circle is huge. So the square just touches at the corners, just touches the big circle, and then the two semicircles are folded in instead of flowing out like a pill. So it's kind of filigree and it looks Gaelic or Celtic, something like that.

So we're, we're playing with [00:07:00] those designs and we think it's interesting and fun. We're also considering, cuz we definitely want to break into children's books. We have an idea for a podcast and accompanying books to go with it. And we're thinking of taking the pill shape and rotating it and then taking one of the semicircles and putting it adjacent, the other semicircle to form a heart.

And you'll see that. Okay. 

Laila: Hopeful. Hopefully you can follow up part for the little children. Yes. And I really like the way it looks too. Yeah. Do, do you wanna talk about the significance of the 

Don: shapes? Sure. Um, the, the lines. Okay. It's our names. It's Lila and Dawn and, okay. Bear with us here. OSB Studio. You can capture a display or you can capture.

Laila: Oh wow. Is that like eternal displays? What was that? 

Don: I was, that's when it's, it's grabbing the display that it's in Hall of Mirrors. Actually, Lila thinks that's [00:08:00] it. It is. Cool. So I'm gonna record this. And so if you're watching the video, you can see this. It is fun. It looks 

Laila: like that old video game you remember, you like the little ships would go down.

It's one of the early, did you ever video that? A lot of video games 

Don: were kind of like this, 

Laila: like it was just nested Rectangles. Uhhuh, yeah. And the ship goes down like the shoot and I can't remember what you do. Yeah. Anyway, it looks like that fun with all the 

Don: colors. So this is what I was talking about here.

Oh, it's, this is missing a couple of lines. Okay. So you'll see this. I'll draw with a different color so we can see it. We are going to spell our names. Be ready to turn yourself over and around and whatever. So here is Lila, l a i a. So you see it was missing those two red stems for the lowercase ass. And then there's, [00:09:00] I'll do a different color.

There's dawn. This is our reuse of one line right here. D o n. Like a. If you look at it sideways, this is the bottom. Oh, like this. It's a lowercase, like this kind. 

Laila: N Oh. Am I not on camera? Am I? Are you still 

Don: okay? Yeah. You are like, like that Numa, like the end in Numa, like if you tipped it over anyway, so Except it would be the other side.

These lines spell out Lila and Dawn. 

Laila: I have another message from our sponsor. Okay. Another thing I wanted to say is that there's a little saltiness to these, which brings out the sweetness without having to have as much sugar. So I think that's how, kind of how they balance it and how it still tastes really desserty without being overly sweet, like sickeningly.

Sweet. Um, so yeah. There you go. 

Don: So let's. [00:10:00] Talk finally about stories. All 

Laila: right. And so what, what's your most recent, what have you most recently been working on? I mean, I know it's been a while cuz you took 

Don: a little break. I've been frustrated. I've, I've basically written, uh, nothing in like a month. I talked to the, uh, the well-established author.

We need to give him a code name cuz I haven't talked to him to ask if I might mention him. I don't know if he wants to be associated with me, maybe I would embarrass him cuz I'm not established and I would show myself to be an embarrassment. I don't know. Well, Mr. Underhill. Mr. Underhill. Okay. So I, I, I, um, emailed Mr.

Underhill with Go Hammus, uh, these superheroes, if you will, and he pointed out very undeniably that it's not a great. Plan for, um, it's not good. S yeah. I [00:11:00] need, um, I need to build a brand and I need to build a brand on something that has an audience. Mm-hmm. I need to publish a genre that has readers and these misfit superheroes don't really have readers.

So, just mentioning that really quick. Uh, on, on that note, I've been wondering like, what am I gonna do? And I've been thinking I'll, I guess, I don't need the writer's income yet. I was, I was thinking to start publishing some things to start, you know, kind of start the snowball rolling on the hill to get people knowing my name so that when I do need the income from writing, it can start.

It's there. Um, 

Laila: but you don't want, I mean, you, you won't get that if it's something nobody's gonna be reading, cuz they're gonna think it's outside of what they're interested in. Yeah. So we think that the story is more interesting than it appears when you describe it. Uh, but you can't sell a story [00:12:00] on that.

So, So I was thinking maybe, well, I mean, and you agree that if you get your name out and your, your work out more and then people are looking to see, read more of you, then they'll give it a chance maybe later down the road. 

Don: But it's gotta be, get your name out the right way. Mm-hmm. Uh, they say that no publicity is bad publicity, and there's certain truth in that because if people are talking about you, that gets more attention towards you.

On the other hand, if it's there, there's. If the interest, if they talk about you as being uninteresting or just whatever, un irrelevant 

Laila: or the interest might be fleeting. Yeah. And then they might be, they might venture a little and then drop you. 

Don: So with go Hamas and Lila said, we never get to talk and we don't get to talk as much as we would like to.

Um, so I haven't told you, oh, surprises for Lila. I've been thinking, well, she knows some of this. She knows some of what I'm about to say. I've been thinking about Go Hammus [00:13:00] and converting it into something more serious toned. Um, so within the Go Hammus universe, uh, for those of you who don't know, it's, it's the guild of holders of marginally useful superpowers.

It's an intentionally dumb and awkward acronym because it's, you know, misfit superheroes and whatnot. Uh, they have largely useless superpowers like, The ability to make grass grow twice as fast, you know? And whoever can do that is gonna have a, a good wheat crop, right? Or maybe, maybe he's a bamboo farmer, but he's not gonna sweep in and save the swoop, swoop, sweep swoop in Swop.

He's not gonna swoop in and save the day anytime soon. But in the Ghama universe, I was thinking that, that there was a totally legit ultra superhero. 3, 4, 5 decades ago, and then there was a super arch villain [00:14:00] that had a rivaling level of power. And so they come at it and the ultra superhero dies, but not before bestowing his power upon the earth or something like that.

And so now it's bubbling up, maybe borderers and it's bubbling up. Um, I didn't mean that literally, but I guess if I say it's upon the earth and now it's bubbling up from the earth, it could be literal. It's bubbling up and hitting people. Um, not literally, but people are finding themselves to have these powers, which are kind of dumb and useless.

But some of 'em are interesting and some of 'em are kind of useful. Like what I came up with the other 

Laila: day. Oh, oh, the ability to freeze time. Was it? To 

Don: freeze time. Except for, but you're frozen too. Ex. You can think, except you 

Laila: can think, you can think you can't move or anything, but like, that 

Don: would be your eyes really useful in some situations.

Mm-hmm. Like, you'll, you'll never get stuck there. Like, yeah. [00:15:00] Will you, you, you know, trying to think of a comeback. You just pause time. You take as much time as you want. You think of a good comeback 

Laila: or, um, or like I was mentioning about word finding. Oh, this was the last episode. Mm. Yeah. Oh, I didn't do that.

And I, like, I, I'm, I've gotten really self-conscious about it, so then I stutter now because I'm like, oh, I can't, I'm gonna find the word. I'm gonna lose the word and I'm, I'm always afraid. And so if I could just take a step back, it would help me kind of deal with this trauma. Um, so, but I was gonna say that these are real people, so you wanna make them real people with real lives and real concerns.

Yep. But there's an undercurrent of humor because of the ridiculousness of. These powers? 

Don: Well, yes, you're right. But I'm thinking more, a little bit more specifically, um, leaning farther away from the Ben Stiller version of, um, mystery Men. I've never read Percy Jackson, but our daughter has read it and she loves the whole series.

She loves anything. Rick Jordan, [00:16:00] and she says It's really funny. Yeah, I, I've heard it pronounced Rearden in other cases. 

Laila: In the, uh, audio books. I think they say Ryden. Mm-hmm. 

Don: It's probably, anyway, so our daughter says they're really funny, but they're not billed as funny. Mm-hmm. Right. And so that's what I'm thinking with Ghama, but I'm also thinking of, of a, a re-identification as the fractured.

Uh, because this, this ultra superhero's powers got fractured among thousands of 

Laila: people. So what do you mean by a re-identification In the storyline they're going to call No, no, 

Don: no. Just a total shift in rebrand. So forget Go hummus. Yeah. So maybe there's one guy saying we should call ourselves, go hammus.

And every people are like, everybody else is like, what? Dude, you're crazy Uhhuh. I don't know. 

Laila: Yeah. But I mean, as far as these Percy Jackson books, that's a good point cuz there's a lot of intense, uh, like there's a [00:17:00] lot of suspense and adventure and danger and some of the characters die and everything, so it's a very serious thing that they're, that they embark on.

But they have funny interactions sometimes and, and it is kind of ridiculous sometimes, but in a, in a funny. Way. So I'm, oh, 

Don: I'm not even looking at the camera. I'm tumbling the idea. And maybe, um, maybe it'll wind up even being a fantasy, like other world fantasy. I don't think so. It kind of loses it.

Especially cuz some of them have technology related powers, like zero day Anyway. Um, so go Hammus, that's that. And then Grant Hill, I think I'm gonna lean into Grant Hill. 

Laila: Yeah, you had mentioned that because that's, that's where your heart is and, but it's, it's a good daunting. It's, it's a good solid. Um, I think there's a lot of interest in that.

What did you, how did you categorize it? Uh, what was the subra that you had? High fantasy. Yeah. [00:18:00] And you were saying you were wondered if picture, do you remember? We were, we were, Don texted me a little bit about this, and we were trying, you were trying to decide, is it more than this or is it more that? Do you remember 

Don: that?

Mm-hmm. Was it, was it recently? 

Laila: Uh, I don't know, like last week or so. I don't remember. Um, but yeah, you were, you were mentioning the different genre types and wondering if, uh, what, what it actually fit into. I'm gonna find it. You can keep talking going. 

Don: So I'm thinking I wanna lean into GR Hill, but it's not so simple because it's tied to, uh, our reunion of stars.

And I think I might change that title. That's a working title. But, um, our Union of Stars is a sci-fi and Grant Hill is a fantasy, but I 

Laila: just wrote a typo. Fan. Tasty 

Don: pen. Tasty. You think about send us pictures of your food on Instagram or on Twitter. Um, [00:19:00] you're fantastical food. Show us your tasty food.

Because then you will be selected as the fan, tasty listener or watcher of the Month of the 

Laila: month recurring thing here. 

Don: Right? The Green Hill Chronicles podcast fan. Tasty Listener of the Month. Um, 

Laila: but seriously, and if you have that, 

Don: send it, do that and, and we'll send you a, a coupon to something. Uh, 

Laila: okay.

This is fun. Um, sorry to 

Don: throw you off. No, it's fine. So, Grant Hill and our Union of Stars. I don't wanna get into right now why they are so connected, but I want to, our Union of Stars involves an alien, um, humanoid race. Um, very humanoid like basically human. Um, maybe a few noticeable differences in features, you know, like the.

The kling on eyebrows and the pointy ears, but, [00:20:00] um, not, not going as far as blue blood. Um, I said Klingon, it meant Vulcan, but it still applies until you get to blue blood. Blue blood is Vulcan. Klingons have purple blood. So anyway, this alien race needs a language and I'm really daunted by that. I intend to create a language.

Laila: Yeah. Yeah. So, so I have two things to say. One is I found the conversation so we can get back to that cuz I do wanna talk about it. It was something I wanted. Okay. In fact, I mentioned, I think, uh, I was like podcast episode tonight or something cuz I wanted to talk about this. But, um, the language thing, I'm just talk, I'm just talking.

I was just gonna say that talking. Um, how long was it that he wrote that, that it took him to write the whole series? It was like, I think, I can't remember. It was something like 20 years [00:21:00] or more maybe. I don't remember. You guys who are experts on this can correct my very approximate information, but it took him a long time and he had different reasons.

I mean, I'm not saying different from yours, but he had various reasons for, for that being the case. Um, Which he mentions in his, like a prologue, I think, I can't remember, of a, a reissue or something that came out, um, back in the day. So he gives a good explanation for the reasons. Mm-hmm. Um, but I'm like, it, you know, this famous, very well-respected writer or not, didn't struggle necessarily.

I don't wanna say that, but it took him all of these years to piece all this together. And I just, I'm afraid of you maybe, um, Falling into the same thing, like 

Don: I'm afraid of the, 

Laila: all of these years, all of the detail, uh, that you want to engender [00:22:00] Brent with. Mm-hmm. It's going to take ridiculous amounts of 

Don: time.

Well, we've been at it for 12 and a half years. Yeah. 

Laila: Yeah. But not full time, you know, like it's, I guess he didn't do full-time either. But yeah, I'm concerned. I'm concerned that if, if you go too deep into the weeds, then you know, 

Don: lose your way. There are, there's some things that I want to have in common between Grant Hill and our Union of Stars, and that includes a language.

I'm going to invent a language for our Union of Stars and it will show up in the Grand Hill universe as well. Uh, and I can't publish. Grand Hill. Like even if I, even if I were like, okay, I'm gonna publish this intro novella for Grand Hill. I can't do that [00:23:00] until I have this figured out. I need this language and I need some other cultural things figured out that I want to reuse in Grand Hill.

I think the language is reuse and change them up. 

Laila: It's a wonderful idea and I have a lot of respect for you wanting to do that, but I, I think it's just gonna be a hangup. It's gonna, it's too, no, it won't be a hangup. It's too massive. 

Don: I, well, I, I'm not a linguist, but I sometimes fancy myself one, uh, insert meme of, um, Oh, oh, the, what's his name?

It's, it's from Spider-Man from 2002. Toby McGuire. Yeah, the Toby McGuire Spider-Man. Where? William Defo character. Why can't I remember his name? 

Laila: Oh, the, the 

Don: Phantom. He says, you know, I'm something of a scientist myself anyway, so, you know, I'm something of a, uh, linguist myself. So I learned Spanish as an adult, and while I learned [00:24:00] Spanish, As an adult, I was noting the similarities and the differences between how the two languages worked and learned Spanish for a religious mission.

I, I went and taught the gospel of Jesus Christ in Spanish for two years. And after those two years, I continued to think about languages cuz I, as I was learning Spanish, I saw cognates between English and Spanish and I saw syntax, or not quite cognates. Hmm. And I saw some things in Spanish that they tell you that you can't translate directly from English, that you can translate directly from English.

You just have to take English from the Bible. And hmm. So there, there are language structures. It's like the word in Spanish means literally. And exactly. Yet colloquially in English these days, we very often say still, But if you revert back to an [00:25:00] older English, you could replace still with yet, and it still works.

And in either case, it yet works. Mm-hmm. And in either case, in Spanish you can say it means yet, and in modern English it also means still. But if you think about yet, and if you're listening to somebody, say Spanish, somebody speaks Spanish and you hear the word to and you, you can. Put yourself in, in, uh, king James Bible English, you translate it as yet and it makes sense.

Whereas if you try to understand it in modern English mm-hmm. It might not make sense. It doesn't align. Yeah. Anyway, so I noticed things like this and not just with words like that, but also with structures, uh, with syntax. Um, And I think it's fascinating, and I, and you see how, how language is split and, and sometimes they converge.

Um, you think about the, [00:26:00] the letter X in English, for us it's X and

in Spanish it's, except it didn't always used to be. And in Greek it's not. And in Russian it's not. Uh, I hope I don't offend anybody who knows Russian, because that's not actually the letter X. It's something that looks like the letter X. Come on. It's derived from the same, it's the letter X. Um, so in, in Russian it's, huh?

Approximately. I don't speak Russian. So, uh, it's basically a hard H. Mm-hmm. And if you pull out old books in Spanish, You'll see. And, and the, the, the entire country south of the United States is spelled with an X. That sounds as a hard H. And 

Laila: why didn't you mention the name 

Don: of the country? I, well, cause I'm making a point of, it's so obvious [00:27:00] Mexico, the country that cannot make Mexico.

It's Mexico, you know, the, the X there. Um, so languages evolve. And they, they meet and they diverge. And it's intriguing stuff. If you can strip away the layers of how a language is used and get to the foundations of what defines it, and this would be the grammar rules, the, the syntax, basic structures, and throw in a few just really common colloquialisms, like the form of language.

Um, then. You have your framework now you just throw words at it. I know, but you throw words 

Laila: at it. You take like Toki was a professor. Mm-hmm. And, you know, he was at that level. This is what he did for a living. And he still had to parse so much and, and he borrowed 

Don: from, from English and Norse. Yeah. Uh, roots, which I do [00:28:00] not intend 

Laila: to do.

Well, sure. I mean, don't if you don't want to, but I'm just saying because I'm, it's a, it's a, might be more complex endeavor. I know. It sounds like cut and paste. Here we go. Just fill in these blanks. I think the process though, you'll will get more complex as you go just because you're gonna have to, it can't 

Don: be that easy.

I see it taking me a few, um, really involved sessions where I have to dive in. And spend some, a little bit of time of deep thought. And then after those few times it'll be filling it in and it'll be decisions. But I'll have this foundation and I'm just Of my framework. Yeah. Scaredy pants. Yeah. And I, I, maybe I'm more daunted than I should feel.

Um, cuz you can find instructions on how to invent a language online and. I've read these instructions and I'm, I'm surprised at [00:29:00] how they make it sound not so insanely daunting. Hmm. And I, I don't believe it that it's that. Mm-hmm. I don't believe that it's as easy as they make it sound. Mm-hmm. And I don't think they're, anyway, so yeah.

I need to create a language and that's been holding 

Laila: me up as well. Would like, I would like comments on what you, your opinions are on this. Uh, I was gonna say fellow listeners, and then I was like, uh, they're not fellow. They're, they're just 

Don: watching us. I'll, anyway, I'll tell you my thoughts on, on this Alien race so far.

Mm-hmm. They're, they're humanoid. My main character in Union of Stars is going to fall in love with one of them, and it's not gonna be weird and creepy because they are, they're, they're very familiar, so human. Mm-hmm. But I need to come up with an alien culture. I'm picturing them as, I'm picturing their world as [00:30:00] having less land mass than ours.

I'm picturing, um, probably a more mature civilization, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they are more advanced in all technologies. I am picturing them more advanced in space drive. They have faster space drive engines than humans. Humans do have space flight. Uh, we are space faring when we run into them.

The working name I have for this, a alien race is the . Um, and I'm kind of, I haven't spoken this out loud, but I'm kind of kicking around the idea of making their civilization somewhat ancient Greek like, hmm. Um, cuz I'm picturing less land mass, more isler, insular, whatever, more, more islands, less continents, um, [00:31:00] and a more unified society.

Um, that's why I said a more mature civilization. They're, they've, they've figured out peace a little better within their society. I think I might change that when I get to writing, I might decide. Otherwise, 

Laila: did you mention how you want these things to intersect with Greenhill? 

Don: Have you heard? No. I mean about that.

I might have in a previous episode. I haven't today 

Laila: because I think that would be an interesting thing to talk about. So maybe not on this episode, but yeah, that's an interesting point. Yeah, and I think it bears a lot of thought to sort out, 

Don: I read recently that Toki created a language and then simulated.

Cultures diverging and then extracted two different languages from that one. Uh, and I don't remember the names of the languages. Languages, so maybe that's languages. Maybe that's, uh, Mork and Elish. [00:32:00] I don't, I don't know. Oh yeah, I don't know. I know names. I'm not an Ultra Toki fan. It's cool. I love Lord of the Rings, but I, I don't nerd out and study up.

Sorry, but, 

Laila: but those are the two. The two, 

Don: I kind of see something. I, I'm going to do some language mutation. Mutation. So the, the, the language mm-hmm. That shows up in Grand Hill. There will be bits of it that will be pure and there will be other things, um, derived from it. Hmm. 

Laila: Like Latin, I don't it like Latin and things are derived from Latin.

Don: Yeah. Uhhuh. Okay. So anyway. I think I'm done talking. Okay. Okay. All right. 

Laila: Okay. You guys go out and buy ourselves a bag of Neuma. 

Don: Yeah, Neuma. Don't happy, don't feel, uh, Neuma. Go ahead and feel free to, uh, send us a sponsorship contract and we'll, [00:33:00] we'll take a look at that. 

Laila: Um, we might not increase your numbers very much yet, but just wait.

Um, anyway, banana Coconut is my very favorite. Flavor. The others are respectable too. It's just my personal preference. 

Don: All right. Thanks for joining us, and we'll see you next time on the Grand Hill Chronicles podcast. So during today's episode, you heard a slip of the tongue and we are running with it. I am proud to announce a contest fan, tasty as in fantasy, like the Grand Hill Chronicles fan as in you and Tasty as in food.

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About constructed languages, invented languages, and [00:35:00] linguistics in general. I had a great time talking to him, so I know you'll enjoy hearing what he had to say. We'll see you next time.

Laila: It's fun to pretend that people are watching.

I didn't know how long I needed to look at the camera, so I, I looked away and then I went back. That's alright. Family wasn't looking 

Don: at you. It's gonna look, we're gonna fade out so it softens. Oh, okay. Okay. I'll post that. I'll post this at the end. It's cuz it's awkward and funny. Okay. Um, the writer Dojo does it too, Uhhuh uh, they, they take a little snippet and put it at the end of the episode.

Um, yeah, it's over.[00:36:00]